They Went Their Own Way
If you are an MGTOW type, this post might make you very angry. Or maybe not. It’s not meant to be a solution to the horrible dating market that exists today. This post, believe it or not, is an interesting look at the original MGTOW group that was launched a couple thousand years ago.
Now, the date might clue you into what I’m getting at, but bear with me. This idea has plenty of components, and we need to set everything up so it will make some sense. If you are a particularly religious person (especially the kind who doesn’t enjoy non-religious ideas about religious organizations) you may want to skip this post.
The modern male who goes his own way is, in a sense, escaping. The world is hard and brutal. It seems that only a small minority of connected or genetically lucky men get the goods, the money and the ladies. For many, it seems that no matter how hard they work, they get little money and little chance at sexual intimacy.
Sexual Intimacy Defined
Of course, sex is easier than ever. But sex is not fulfilling when it’s so easy go get. Most hookup encounters are of the “wham bam thank you ma’am” type, from both parties. All you’ve got to do is swipe a few times, get your nut, and go home. If you happen to want something more, and you are not the church going type then there’s not a lot of hope on the horizon.
So it makes a certain amount of sense from a cost-benefit analysis. If getting quick lays doesn’t float your boat, and the idea of spending all kinds of time, effort, getting rejected, only to find some girl that may end up dumping you anyway, taking a pass on the whole dating game makes a certain amount of sense. We’re not here to judge or even make recommendations, just provide some interesting angles on old ideas.
We have been anatomically correct humans for about fifty thousand years. This means our mind-body systems that exits today in our current train wreck of a society are the same as they’ve been for that long. Meaning if you had a time machine, and decided to travel back in time twenty or thirty thousand years, kidnap a few babies and them bring them back, they would likely grow up to be normal kids. At least that’s the theory.
While many people don’t like hunter-gatherer references brought to bear on modern society, we really are the same people, from an instinctive level. And since money and sex are some pretty basic human instincts, it might help to see how this kind of idea (dating, etc.) might have played out a couple dozen thousand years before.
For one, everybody knew everybody. The idea of hooking up with random strangers didn’t exist. The idea of adultery (even thought it hadn’t yet been defined) didn’t really exist. Some theorize that the higher a male was on the food chain, the more sex you got. Many evolutionary scientists tell us that we were basically monogamous, but men were polygamists any chance we got.
Alpha Male Alpha Sex
Generally speaking, today’s sexual behavior echoes that of our ancient ancestors. Meaning the better a hunter one was, (better acquirer of ancient wealth-meat) the more sex one tended to get. Since people had zero safety nets back then, and everybody knew everybody their entire lives, guys that provided the most meat (killed the biggest animals consistently) got the most girls. Most people probably accepted that.
Farming And Religion
A long time went by before farming was invented and the first large societies, complete with writing, were established. Empires rose and fell, and there was a lot of growing pains. After all we humans (with our modern instincts) lived in small groups of a few hundred. It was pretty easy for a few alpha guys to get more than their fair share of women.
But with farming, came farming tools. And weapons. And meta alpha guys with a lot of soldiers to help protect their alpha-ness. The guy who was alpha of a whole city (of up to a million people) would usually be much more alpha than a guy in charge of a tribe of a few hundred.
This undoubtedly led to all kinds of issues. All kinds of strategies and gods that worked for some for a while, before they were overthrown and other gods and leaders (who were often one in the same) were put in their place. It wasn’t uncommon for the mythology of any ancient society to be carefully wedded to the current rulers. But then something happened.
The Roman Empire came up with the idea of monotheism. The idea of one god existed prior to Rome, but Rome connected that one god idea to their political leadership.
The evolution of mythology is an interesting study, especially how the idea of the many gods and their personalities tended to sometimes match with the ruling strategy of the political rulers. And coincidentally (maybe) when Rome became a large empire, the believed it was predominant, it eventually took on the monotheistic Christian God as the supreme ruler of the universe.
If you’ve ever been to a Catholic Mass, you’ve heard the Nicene creed. This was written at the first counsel of Nicaea in 325 C. E. Who decided to have this meeting? Emperor Constantine of Rome, the same guy who decided that the Monotheistic Christian Religion would be the official religion of Rome. This council of men (politicians who were likely corrupt as our own) decided on the theological “truths” about this new official Roman Religion. A bunch of guys got together, decided on what was what regarding this official Roman religion, and that was that.
(As a side note, consider going to a Catholic Mass, and reciting the Nicene creed (they have them written in the books that are in the pews) just for the experience. Saying a prayer written by Roman Rulers more than two thousand years ago. Even if you not the least bit religious, it’s a pretty interesting experience, from a historical-mythological perspective.)
Christianity Pre Existed
From a purely political standpoint, politicizing the growing Christian religion was a shrewd move. The Christian church was getting stronger, to ignore it would make it hard for any Roman Emperor to rule effectively.
Then Rome collapsed. Not right away. The collapse of Rome was slow and took a few hundred years. Some say the collapse was official in 476 C. E. when the last Roman Emperor was finally kicked out by some guy named Odoacer, a Germanic leader. But the die had been cast. The monotheistic God of Abraham was the God of Europe by that time. The Roman Empire may have collapsed, but the Roman Catholic Church still lives on strongly to this day.
Currently, the Catholic Church is the largest (or one of the largest depending on whose stats you’re reading) non-governmental landowner in the world. Now for the money question: How the heck did the Catholic Church go from being the official religion of the Roman Empire, which collapsed a hundred and fifty years after it became so, live through the middle ages to emerge as the largest non-government landowner on Earth? That Dear Reader, is due to a curious turn of events that involve both sex, wealth and a several hundred years of beta male activity.
Middle Age Cold War
There as a long slow cold war during the middle ages, or sometimes referred to the dark ages. If you are a lover of big government and central authority, the dark ages is appropriate. Europe and the Church were highly intertwined. Up until the protestant reformation, all kings had to more or less acquiesce to the authority of the Pope, who was the “king” of the Catholic Church.
When a king or noble had a son, the son stood to inherit everything. Second sons, not so much. But the second sons had a backup plan, and that was to join the clergy. Priests had plenty of power back then. If you wanted to get to heaven, you had to confess your sins to a priest. But one thing priests couldn’t do (allegedly) was get laid. This was the price for being the guardian of heaven, you couldn’t get any Earthly paradise.
Of course, these guys weren’t as holy as they made out to be. The practice of selling indulgences was pretty common. If you committed a bunch of sins, and you died, you would have to spend time in purgatory before you were pure enough to enter heaven. But if you were a rich guy, you could guy these indulgences which were “get out of jail free” passes. Meaning you could sin all you wanted, pay off these priests and sneak in the back door to heaven. Or cut in line in front of all the poor folk.
Priests and Popes Had Power
Imagine a Pope and a king had a bit of a row. The Pope could, theoretically, excommunicate the entire population of the kingdom and blame it on the king. This would be disastrous for the kings rule. People would stop paying taxes if they knew they were going to hell on the kings account. Or they’d slip into the next country and pay homage to that dude.
Kings knew this and wanted to stay in the good graces of the Popes and other higher-ups in the clergy. This is one way the church slowly amassed wealth, mostly in the form of land, over the years.
Another way was by slowly making it difficult for cousins to marry cousins. This was a favorite way of ancient monarchs to consolidate power. One king could have his son marry the daughter of his cousin, for example, which would make sure the kingdom (and all it’s land) stayed in the family.
Or a couple of nobles who weren’t rich enough to be king, could conspire to marry their kids together, uniting their land. Then another noble family could be brought in and into the mix, slowly building their land ownership over the generations.
Since the church was also getting land, they saw these calculated marriages between relatives as a threat to their wealth building. So slowly, over the years, they started making rules about who could marry whom. Since these priests were the ones that did the marrying, no noble (or anybody else for that matter) could marry anybody without the holy approval of the priests. This created a very interesting scenario.
First Beta Male Union
This meant that the second sons, who didn’t stand to inherit much from their families, were the priests in charge of who could marry whom. And since the only person a guy back then could have sex with was his wife, and since marriages were only under approval of these priests, that meant that these men, these second sons who’d dedicated their lives to Jesus and willingly decided to never chase the pussy, were the ones making up all the rules of who could have sex with whom.
It’s not a stretch to call these guys beta males. You could consider the alphas the first sons, who stood to inherit all the land. The beta sons, second born, didn’t inherit squat. They also decided to “go their own way” and never have sex again. That sounds very much like similar men today. Only the beta males back during the middle ages, and the powerful union they created over the centuries, were the very same beta males who decided who got to have sex with whom.
Let that sink in. The second sons, who never got land, never got laid, they made the rules about who could have sex with whom. About who could marry whom. And nobody could get into heaven without telling these dudes all their dirty secrets. Talk about the long game!
Foundations Of Western Civilization
It’s not a stretch to see that most of our current laws in western society stem from the laws under “Christendom.” Laws of marriage. Our morality, the propagation of “Ten Commandments,” of not coveting your neighbor’s stuff or wife, all these rules were handed down by the original beta males who “went their own way.”
Long Game Victory
You might even say that these original MGTOW’s played the very long game, whether they knew it or not. They didn’t likely have a five hundred year plan of slowly taking over all of Europe through the regulations of sex and marriage and controlling who got into heaven and who didn’t. No doubt most of these guys really did believe in the teachings of Jesus and the Church. It’s also likely that only the bad apples among them were the ones selling indulgences and secretly getting laid on the side.
But the ramifications of this powerful group of beta males who went their own way is astounding. These second sons, who decided to never, ever get laid, collectively controlled the thinking and prayers of an entire continent for nearly two thousand years.
Even today, there are over a billion Catholics, many who still believe in the ideas these sexless men created over the centuries. Some extreme conspiracy theorists may believe this was their plan all along. That even back in the last days of the Roman Empire, these men somehow calculated all that would come over the next two millennia.
It’s doubtful than the second sons who decided to join the church and dedicate their lives to Christ really believed that they were part of a two thousand year conspiracy to gain land and wealth in favor of the Church. The never ending unfolding of human history is impossible to predict. But it is astonishing that what we are witnessing today, the many men who are voluntarily leaving the system to create their own “brotherhood of sexless men” strangely echoes the past.
But when you have a large percentage of the population realizing there is nothing for them here, and they voluntarily choose not to participate, it won’t go unnoticed. Many women today scoff at the voluntarily sexless men who are going their own way. Who knows, maybe they will always be scoffed at. Or as more and more men realize there is nothing for them in today’s society, it might have ramifications hundreds or even thousands of years into the future.
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